for with them # 19_PSA_119_93 # I will never forget thy precepts: for with them thou hast quickened me. 
or with them # 14_2CH_14_11 # And Asa cried unto the LORD his God, and said, LORD, [it is] nothing with thee to help, whether with many, or with them that have no power: help us, O LORD our God; for we rest on thee, and in thy name we go against this multitude. O LORD, thou [art] our God; let not man prevail against thee.